user DannyBuoy | 4 months ago

As soon as I heard 'Sustainable Tourism' I knew this was a topic that would be interesting to follow. For all of human existence when you couldn't stay in a place for any reason, you migrated. If you can't afford the rent, own a property, earn a decent wage...you move to somewhere you can... Millions of Polish moved to the UK to do just that and left when they'd made/sent enough money back home. Now we have the Eco-Socialist bandwagon demanding terms and handouts...I'm sure they'll get their way in the end.

user Gaz | 4 months ago

Hi I’m from a small island and it’s economy needs tourists and also the wealthy to create jobs for locals, not every tourist who visits your island is looking to buy there and they are simply there for vacation which brings money into your island supporting local shops, taxi’s hire cars, restaurants, tourist attractions which helps maintain your islands history and maintenance etc, your should look for a law change on property if anything and stop victimising your tourist’s, many countries were crying out for tourists during Covid where people’s visiting rights were limited it was crippling there economy, so my advice is be careful what you wish for because your barking up the wrong tree and unfortunately you won’t realise the damage you have done till after it’s done. Once the damage is done you’ll have a hard time reversing it so good luck.

user Richard Pearson | 4 months ago

tranq tranquerWith all due respect I think you are missing the point. Just because they earn more doesn’t necessarily mean that they have more spare cash. Indeed, during my youth, I was earning substantially less than I do now, but never seemed to be without a bob or two and never thought twice about going out for a slap up meal with friends of either sex ( only two back then). Nowadays, my personal overheads plus social costs and taxes have increased dramatically, meaning that my “free spending” days are well and truly over. Re the working youth of today, your knowledge must be far more extensive than mine due to the, I think, 50 years that you have lived here. But the general opinion of a local I discussed this with was that the demand for labour, not only in the hospitality industry but also in the construction industry was so massive that the Mallorquines just couldn’t make up the difference, so “importing” labour from the mainland was essential. He also said that back then most jobs were filled by local women, and that yes local men climed the ladder faster than outsiders due to the fact that the companies were owned and run by their similars. It seems like the children and grandchildren of these imported workers are now at the top of the ladder as well, so they need to bring in people to do the job they used to do and are unwilling to carry on doing, but nonetheless making excellent money and due to knowing and speaking the local lingo and intermarriage are more or less indistinguishable from the original inhabitants. Anyway that’s what I have been told, and may not be the full story.

tranq tranquer tranq tranquer | 4 months ago

Richard PearsonSo if they earn more up there, which they do, they can afford to eat and drink down here without whinging can't they . As for younger generation locals, who used to live at home with their parents, and who no longer want to work in the hospitality industry , that brings up an interesting point. As far as I remember very few local Mallorcans ever worked in the service industry, at least nothing lower than management. The work was done by " foresteros" mainlanders who were brought over each year as cheap labour in their thousands from Andalucia and Extremadura. No doubt many of those stayed and had families who grew up here and so are " local" but are not wealthy and have more family ties on the mainland than here. ( Think second or third generation Carribean in the UK) So now there are two classes of local yoof. Mallorquin and non Mallorquin. Landed through countless aunts uncles cousins and parents, and non landed just getting by. A division that never used to exist and with ever increasing immigration will only get bigger as the Mallorquins withdraw into themselves as they have done over centuries of various invaders. And obviously the locals who are being priced out of the market are the second group, not the first. Answering Loadsamoney : I will bet on the fact almost all of the young in that tourist demo above are Mallorquin . As for being thick brain dead rednecks most will have a University degree or other qualification and will not be poor. They see what is happening to their island and are trying to do something about it. Judging by all the comments and news articles they are succeeding.

user Richard Pearson | 4 months ago

“It's not unlike the Trump phenomenon” You forgot to take your TDS pill again this morning.

user Richard Pearson | 4 months ago

“And if you look at the big picture, cost of living here is still well below that of most major metropolitan areas in Europe” Yeah, sure. Average wage Switzerland € 6.700 Average wage Germany € 4.200 Average wage Sweden € 4.000 Average wage Spain € 2.500 And UK and German visitors are telling me that food, restaurant, electricity, internet and fuel prices are higher or similar to those that they pay back home. Someone must be wrong.

Morgan Williams Morgan Williams | 4 months ago

Mike LammersYou're mostly right... however, the problem of "overtourism" is seasonal and regional, although like most who read the headlines - the activists naturally tend to generalise that everywhere is overcrowded, all year long, and all bad things are the result of tourism. Cost of living, for example, statistically and verifiably has little to do with tourism. And if you look at the big picture, cost of living here is still well below that of most major metropolitan areas in Europe. When the media over-hypes it, that rhetoric trickles down to the general population. It's not unlike the Trump phenomenon - for example, he always claimed the US economy is in the pits - worst in history - and lots of people believed him - yet statistically, the US economy has been pretty much running at historical highs for quite some time. Yes, recently he's had to tone that rhetoric down because it's completely contrary to reality, and people were beginning to notice. I suspect this anti-tourism thing may also cool down as the season winds up. But not without some damage - which you can blame on sensationalist media to a certain extent. Particularly in Britain, where the hyperbole has elevated to the twilight zone - now they're just making stuff up. But they always did. Still, if you don't live in one of these tourist-overcrowded regions such as the resorts or Palma, then you really don't see much of this overcrowding, and life is pretty attractive - and that explains why properties are being bought up at historically high prices. Retirees especially, from all over Europe (and increasingly, north America) find it very attractive. And they have the money. And that's not going to change. Anti-tourism or not. The problem is that many locals can't afford it, yet the other half the local population is literally getting rich from it - and they all vote. So don't expect politicians to cut their own throats by alienating one group of voters from another. But who knows - they might get stupid. We'll see. The morale of the story is that yes, there's surely some cause for tourist alarm in certain areas at certain times of the year, but it's much too easy to generalise about it, leading to the risk of recklessly using a chain saw to perform brain surgery, which can't possibly relieve the symptoms, and is more likely to kill the patient. But that still won't make buying property here any less attractive, and as even you elude to, may actually make it more attractive due to less crowding. And that won't lower the cost of housing one bit.

user Loadsamoney | 4 months ago

@Beachcomber. What a load of rubbish. Are people put off from going to non European countries that have the same fingerprint system 🤔 er no. As for unemployment, foreign hospitality staff (they mostly are) would head for the mainland where rents are cheaper. Please do some research instead of quoting directly from the Daily Mail.

user Richard Pearson | 4 months ago

The fact that a huge amount of younger generation locals, who used to live at home with their parents, and who no longer want to work in the hospitality industry has been substituted by legal immigrants from principally South America and some European nations who have no home base in the islands, hasn’t helped much either.

user Mike Lammers | 4 months ago

It is not a question that tourists are not welcome I think. The issues are that in many parts( almost all nowadays ) it is just too much and not pleasant to live as a local ( which I am not but can surely understand ) and not related to Mallorca only These people have equal rights as tourists and this is not the case ( housing, dodgy working contracts, artificially raise of food prices etc ) That there is less income from bars and restaurants has nothing to with the protest but with quality and price .Its all about healthy balance .We love a certain part of the island , but how can you enjoy a holiday with overcrowding around you?