Marvin Le MartianI tried, but Morgan’s fully booked.
"Proper control", I suppose that means something you can get away with? I doubt you'll be able to get away with this one forever. But no doubt that's why you're so obsessed about it I'm not going to look up answers to your silly questions. Try this: open your browser and type "what happens if the police discover you're living illegally in Spain". I'm sure you'll get plenty of study material. Get help, Richard.
To Richard and Morgan. Get a room!
Morgan WilliamsPROPER control Williams, proper control, not the feel good, look good one they are trying to impose, yes, impose on 99% of the law abiding, tax paying citizens who are living or have lived on the European continent for decades and, if you prefer, generations. These people (the authorities) are like accountants, only interested in the bottom line and not how the income was generated to create it. I’ll leave it up to you to tell us what they should do to control the non law abiding people who reside on the continent. Include me amongst these if you should so wish.
Morgan WilliamsI never ride a bike at night. Only between 10am and 5pm. Care to answer my questions, or can’t you think of a convincing reply without bluffing your way out of if ?
Richard PearsonThat's ironic. You complain about the "lack of control" endlessly, yet are brutally opposed to it. Why is that, Richard?
Morgan WilliamsOh, and I forgot to mention that I know someone, an Englishman to be precise, who has lived there for years, got all the residencias, padrones, TIE etc, who uses his expired Spanish driving license as proof of identity, Never a problem, even to enter Police and National police offices and properties. It proves who he is, photo et al, but not that he may have overstayed his welcome or updated all the proper paperwork. Like to make a comment about that ?
Morgan WilliamsAnd lastly, nowadays you can’t even purchase a ticket let alone board a plane or ship without having handed the company all your personal details, which in turn are forwarded to the country to where the mode of transport is heading. In other words they know who you are and when you’re arriving a long time before you have even started to pack your bags. To summarize: law abiding citizens, beware !
Richard PearsonWow, you're damned sleuthy to be able to pass between Spain and France on the "back roads" in the middle of the night without encountering any passport control. Bloody clever, Einstein.
Morgan WilliamsHere you go: If you are arrested by the police for being in Spain without a residence permit, or without having submitted the request of a residence permit, they will take you to the police station and begin legal proceedings against you which MAY result in a deportation order or a fine. I have highlighted the “may” so that you don’t miss it. I’ll probably decide to just pay the fine. As the saying goes “Don’t worry, be happy”.